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Malaysia is a big tourist destination, yes. “Malaysia, Truly Asia” has been constantly advertised on CNN International for years, Penang and Langkawi are resort hotspots and Kuching and Kota Kinabalu are big culture/adventure travel destinations. But, compared to its neighbors, Indonesia with Borobudur and Bali, Cambodia with Angkor Wat, the international hub city of Singapore and of course Thailand, Malaysia pales as a tourist destination. This sort of seems like a fact of life, but why? What about Malaysia makes it relatively unappealing, so lame-seeming? It can certainly be good value, with many services at first world levels for discount prices. The food is excellent. Melaka and Penang have intriguing history and there is natural beauty galore on Borneo. Is Malaysia’s poor reputation unmerited? Admittedly we’ve spent little time in Malaysia, just a couple weeks in Borneo and about a week in Peninsular Malaysia, but our answer would be no. Malaysia just isn’t in the same league.

The first problem with Malaysia is, apparently, violence. I do not know the statistics on this, but Malaysia is the only country in Asia (other than the Philippines) where I have heard repeated safety concerns from other travelers. Yes, you may be conned in Bangkok and there are certainly some government-related issues in Burma and China, but East/Southeast Asia as a whole (other than the Philippines) is extraordinarily safe, one of the region’s many strengths for travelers. Even Jakarta, which I had at one point ignorantly feared, feels astonishingly safe on the ground. In sharp contrast, in the short time that we were in Kuala Lumpur (KL), we heard two separate stories about muggings, and I was physically attacked in the main bus station (more on this below).

The second problem with Malaysia is racism and racial tension. While Malaysia has a history dating from the 15th century or so as a Malay-ethnic sultantate, Malaysia as a modern country is largely the product of colonial powers (first Portuguese and Dutch and then British) and labor brought in by those powers (the Chinese for manual labor and commerce, the Indians for administration and the service sector). Well into the twentieth century, the principal cities of Malaysia were largely built, owned and populated by Chinese, who made up nearly half of the country’s population. The smaller Indian population is augmented by the presence of overseas workers from the subcontinent. Yes, Malaysia is a multicultural society, but Malaysia’s vision of itself as a country where all three of the major ethnic groups live together in complete harmony sometimes seems to be more dream than reality.

The biggest problem, in my view, is discriminatory Malaysian laws. I do not deny that it is unfortunate for your “homeland” to be taken over by an outside ethnic group that has been brought in by a colonial power (the Palestinians certainly can identify with that)–the Chinese minority is still disproportionately economically powerful–but the policies put in by the majority Malay (now some 60% of the population) amount to little other than discrimination against and theft from the Chinese and Indians. Public companies are required to be at least 30% owned by Bumiputras (i.e., “sons of the earth,” or Malays and certain other “native” groups), new housing construction is required to be sold to Bumiputras at a discount, Bumiputras are allowed affirmative access in higher education and many government contracts and permits are given to Bumiputras on a preferential basis. This racist system is enshrined in the Malaysian constitution, and although the provision was supposed to be temporary, and there is occasionally talk of trimming back on its application, it remains in place.

The laws are no doubt both an effect of and a cause of racial sentiment that seems prevalent throughout the country. Malaysia is certainly not the only country with racial tension (Indonesia in particular is infamous for racial riots that have occurred in its history), but, currently, Malaysia is, outside of the U.S., the country in which I’ve felt the greatest amount of animosity among different ethnic groups. Our conflict at the bus station was with Malay-ethnic Malaysians, and Chinese-ethnic Malaysians who were present immediately came to our defense, telling us that as Americans in a position of relative influence we had to report what had happened to us. One middle-aged Chinese woman said that “they” (meaning Malays) commit all kinds of crimes, especially against defenseless South Asians, and get away with it. She was also mistrustful of the police, and told me that I should make sure to keep copies of all reports that we make, to ensure that they are not subsequently doctored. An Indian police officer who handled our matter said that such violence was a “national epidemic,” with the subtle implication that it was a Malay-ethnic problem. A Chinese taxi driver told us not to take Indian taxis, because they would rip us off (perhaps in this case a justified prejudice, judging from our limited sample). Surveys have shown that racial stereotypes are widely held in Malaysia, with people believing Malays to be lazy, Chinese greedy and Indians dishonest.

Third, Islam is manifesting itself in Malaysia in strange ways. People may think of Malaysia as the more modern and cosmopolitan of the two Muslim Southeast Asian nations, but, it seems to me, Malaysia, far more than Indonesia, is turning to a sort of fundamentalist version of Islam that is bizarrely conservative and reactionary. (I have read that the rise of fundamentalist Islam in Indonesia was at one time called “the Malaysian problem” because Malaysia was the Asian source of the movement.) All Malays are subject to sharia (or Islamic law) courts, which have ruled apostasy a crime. Malaysia is famous for having pursued, essentially as a political crime, a sodomy charge against a former prime minister. Our bus station altercation involved an argument with a woman, whom I had to shake off of me at one point because she was forcefully grabbing my arm and not letting go–a person standing by told me that I should have my hand cut off for fighting with a woman (“chop chop chop,” she cheerfully said, making a chopping gesture with her hand), a demented vision of Islamic punishment. Ideas which are out of date seem even more backward when placed in a foreign cultural setting–it may make sense for some Arab countries to wish to revert back to a more glorious Arab past, but in Malaysia the adoption of the foreign code of behavior feels not only anachronistic (shifted in time) but misplaced (shifted in space and culture).

Finally, however Malaysia may try to sell itself as a developed country, the primitive state of some of its public transport culture shows that it is in some ways still very much a third world country. First, the taxis. I remember, not too long ago, when taxis in Korea used to rip customers off–overcharging foreigners, refusing to use the meter, refusing to go to certain parts of town, etc. At some point, some combination of the government, drivers and customers recognized that developed countries do not behave this way, and taxis are now, for the most part, totally clean. Vietnam is clearly still on the developing end of the scale, according to this metric, while Thailand with its combination of meters and crooked drivers falls somewhere in between. The taxis in KL are some of the absolute worst for ripping travelers off–perhaps the only place we’ve seen worse is Delhi, and that’s saying an awful lot. Drivers in central KL routinely refuse to use their meters and instead quote astronomical rates that are multiples of the proper fare. Rather than turn their meter on or accept a reasonable fare, they will simply tell you to get out of their car. The government apparently lacks the will or the means to clean this up, despite the extremely poor impression it makes on travelers to Malaysia, while the lack of dignity on the part of the drivers reveals a grave deficiency in the le
vels of civics and ethics.

But even worse than the taxis (after all, a common problem, even if not to the level of KL) is the situation at Puduraya Bus Station. Puduraya is the country’s largest bus station and is located right in the heart of KL. If you’ve been in Korea or Turkey or Mexico or any other country with well-developed bussing, you know that bus lines can be extremely comfortable and professional. I recall that the main bus terminal in Mexico City is pretty much like an airport in terms of modernity and efficiency, Turkish busses famously have attendants that give you cologne and Korean busses leave precisely on time, almost to a fault, with many offering 2-1 seating (two seats on one side of the aisle, one on the other). Even Indian bus stations, for all their chaos, are pretty well run, with reliable schedules and fares by state-owned companies.

Puduraya is, simply put, the worst bus station we’ve ever seen. The place is in congested central KL (has no-one thought to move this thing a bit out of town?) and, in steamy Malaysia, not air conditioned. All of the guidebooks refer to it as a den of pickpockets. There are some fifty or so ticket counters–competition run amok with no sense of regulation–and no centralized way to figure out when what busses are going where. Worst of all are the many scams. We fell prey on the one ride we tried to take out of Puduraya and met another tourist who was also an angry victim. Reports online suggest that the scams are extremely common, not only but especially for tourists. It goes something like this: You buy a ticket, and at some point someone pretends to be a ticket agent and tears off your stub. Given the chaos of the station, with literally dozens of companies, almost no-one in uniform and multiple companies operating in each bay, this does not happen only to the naive. Then, when it comes time for you to get on your bus, you are told that your ticket is invalid and your assigned seat has been sold to another passenger.

What happened to us was a slight variation on this. We showed up for our bus exactly seven minutes early, but didn’t find a bus. Bus station employees who were standing at our bay told us to wait, and then tore off our ticket stub. After waiting for twenty minutes, we realized that our bus must have left without us (as we learned later, after filling our seats with other passengers who were charged an on-the-spot premium for getting on an earlier bus), and so went angrily to ask for a refund. At the counter, we were told that our tickets could not be refunded because the stubs had been torn off, despite the fact that we were not the only passengers who had been waiting, promptly and in the right place, and never even saw the bus. Basically, this ploy allows the companies to sell more tickets than there are seats on the bus. In our case, with a typically Malaysian twist it turns out, this dispute led to the crook running up behind me and hitting my head with a heavy walkie-talkie.

When Derek defended me with a quick punch to my attacker, an angry crowd of Malays converged, all siding with the attacker (later we learned that they were likely other resident con-artists who were part of the same gang). But many others knew exactly what was going on. A taxi driver (figuring it best to get out quickly, we opted for an expensive long-distance taxi instead of trying another bus) told us that there’s a “mafia” of ticket sellers and con artists operating at the station, selling tickets to buses that don’t exist and otherwise getting people to pay for tickets that they cannot use. It is equally well known among well-seasoned travelers. To quote Lonely Planet’s Thorntree message board:

“Having been traveling for over 16 months through Northern Asia, Latin America, Australasia and now South East Asia we have seen a lot of bus stations (at the moment we have used over 115 intercity buses on this trip) but we agreed that Puduraya was the worst we had seen so far in terms of ease of use, safety and reliability. “

“Agreed, Kuala Lumpur’s Puduraya Bus Terminal is a hellhole. Those of us who know Puduraya would love to avoid it, but when going through KL [by] bus, there are few options. For a country that pretends to be on the treshold of joining the First World league of nations, it has some of the worst bus terminals anywhere; even India’s are better; Malaysia’s bus terminals are not even Third World, but more like Fourth World. ”

Given these safety concerns, the institutionalized racism and racial tension and “fourth world” transportation hassles, is it any wonder that so many travelers prefer to go to friendly Thailand, rustic Laos or service-focused Bali?

211 replies on “Bad Malaysia”

for me, malaysia is a lost country…, lost their cultural and has to pick some traditions and cultures from surrounding neighbours to build up their culture. the heads of terrorist in Indonesia imported from malaysia too. change the border map between malasyia and indonesia? Ambalat? Manohara? i really proud of indonesian ppl because of no matter what, indonesian employees still have big guts to work in malaysia but i’ve never seen malaysian melayu ever travel to indonesia… Do you know why?

coz your money is useless. low trade values. indonesia is so poor. why anyone wanna work there lol. easy answer.

Don’t. Please just don’t. Please change. A muslim must accept things that has happened. And if you aren’t a muslim, just please be more open minded.

for me, malaysia is a lost country…, lost their cultural and has to pick some traditions and cultures from surrounding "neighbours to build up their culture. the heads of terrorist in Indonesia imported from malaysia too. change the border map between malasyia and indonesia? Ambalat? Manohara? i really proud of indonesian ppl because of no matter what, indonesian employees still have big guts to work in malaysia but i've never seen malaysian melayu ever travel to indonesia… Do you know why?"

– well, because there's no money in indonesia and the corruption level is not only among the high rank officer, but also among the taxi driver. thats why.

damn you white shit

u dare say bad things about my homeland

i will send najib C4 and kill you. watch your back. i know your IP. call your god now. you iz goin to dies

malaysia is better than your shit for brains nation..

admit it you jeles coz we have better wumenz

good thing you got assaulted at the bus station. that will make u respect the locals more..

Malaysia gov is fucking stupid ! No brain ! they ate so much money for what ! Should eat their own shit enough!

Totally agree ,the most racist country ever and they abuse all international tourist and students specially if you are African

This is anon, you have some times time left to pray to your heathen gods, have a nice day in hell.

lol wat u expect the country be , when it was run by bunch of bozos as gov? Islamic country lol

I could not help but find myself nodding in agreement with your synopsis of the Malaysian experience, it's amazing you could glean so much from such a brief stay.

The part where you are absolutely wrong is labeling Msia as 4th World, Malaysia is actually a 999th World country and WE ARE PROUD OF THIS FACT!!

999th World Pride!!!

paul

please come to malaysia and be our king

us useless slant eyed chinks would lick ur cock just so that you can take over from the superior malays. we are a weak race since we eat too many pork and flied lice

please come here be our saviour like Raffles saved Sinciapore

we need u ..

Tat guy is not even Singaporean. Wat is yr pt of even mocking at my homeland’s name? Childish. Pls go n educate yrself dude. Thanks.

malaysia is first world

only the tourist is 89th world. cant accept the way we do things

u think u so superior because you white skin fuck? .. damn cibai mahai sohai.. chintongfa..

yellow power.. eat more noodle and laksa then come back u white fuck

hi, i've been in this "malaysia" for 8 years now. I wish i could have gone to some other place.

This country as you mentioned is trying to hard to portray itself as First world, or developing country. where, in fact is is more like 5th world (calling it third world is insult to third world countries).

Racism, Discrimination, and Crime, are nothing but common. So common that the common man things it is the norm.

And the beautiful replies you got from so many "patriotic malaysians" shows the level of education, ethics, and manners they have.

I'm amazed how you figured out things in a very short time, cause honestly. It took me longer than few months to realize all this.

Well said.

i will report this blog to pulis

we will demo and ngo will make u pay for talking cock about malaysia

truthfully

umno paid lackeys
melayu maju

this blog writer is an INDON. INDON BANGSA RENDAHAN !! miskin yah?? mau makan?? kemari yuk ntar gua belikan nasi sama terasi. wkwkwkwkw !! lucu !! namanya juga INDON.

Show some respect dude. Call them properly and address them as Indonesians. Stop being so rude.

Look, I’m a Malay too and I’m proud of being one, but sometimes, I can’t help but think that people like you are making Malaysia worse. Don’t look down at other countries and at least try and understand their culture to make a valid argument. We are thr country of acceptance and open culture to others but people like you are the reason we are seen as a bad country. But this is just my opinion, I’m so sorry if I offended you in any way.

"Racism, Discrimination, and Crime, are nothing but common. So common that the common man things it is the norm.

And the beautiful replies you got from so many "patriotic malaysians" shows the level of education, ethics, and manners they have.

I'm amazed how you figured out things in a very short time, cause honestly. It took me longer than few months to realize all this.

Well said."

The Marehsian education system & its "media" perpetuate the delusion, ignorance and false arrogance!

Wow! Malay power and a muslim, suggesting to rape white IMPERIALISTS and dont want chinese! Your islamic relegion really teach u to hate people from different religion, race. The malays can never be successful like the chinese! Some malays u see that make money drive bmw, mercedes, audi mostly buy entry level models with low cubic capacity like 2.0cc with the price of rm300k. And they will buy the cheapest new continental car just for the sake of owning a european machine! Some like to overspend on other luxuries. But most of them borrow money from the bank! Most melayu always talk about islamic stuff, but actually malays are bunch of hypocrites! The girls wear baju kurung with tudung but actually they are bunch of horny sluts fucking at the cheap flat top floor staircase. Most raping cases are done by melayu, they even rape their own daughters, and when its published in newspapers, the editors try to cover up the stories not mentioning the name and race of the rapist! Malay muslim talk lots of bullshit and cannot succeed better than the chinese! Malays have hatred to other races and very jealous with people who are talented and successful with passion especially foreigners! Malaysia is a country angry with foreigners but in the end they still need these foreigners to build their country coz Malaysians cant do shit. I remember talking to other foreigners and asking them their opinion when they used to stay in malaysia. They said the worst ever south east asian country they lived and visited was the worst among other asian countries. 80% of them said the worst and fucked race is the MALAY race, a race with bunch of holy muslim pretenders, and when u see the true color if the malays they are very violent, xenophobic and have inferiority complex towards other race who are better than them! The holy Malay USTAZ instead of guiding children in islam, they like to scare the young generation stating many things they do is haram. And many cases in the newspaper like berita harian, kosmo alot of USTAZ “konon2 super holy islam” many get charged with rape! The highest domestic violence, crime and rape statistically are MALAYS that are high ranked! Pity Malay bastards…..hahahaha

Please don’t talk bad about the Chinese people, they are good people and they live peacefully in our country (I’m a proud Malaysian but I’m starting to lose hope because of people like you) I’m friends with some of them and they’re so nice, so please don’t talk bad about the Chinese people living here.

the blogger is a fuckin honkey !! go back to America, you piece of white bread.

Don’t talk bad about others, they are just stating facts. We can’t do anything about it unless people like you change. In the meantime though, we can just see the good side of Malaysia.

another pakatan rakyat paid lackey detected

traitor

did anwar promise to fuck u?

That guy is not a Thai, Bangkokian. For wat make fun of my city? Bangkok is the city of divine. Dunno anything, dun talk. U didn’t like it when others say bad stuff aby yr country. I also dun like it when ppl talk bad abt my city. Better watch yr words. Bye n thank u.

Wow…real mature guys. This is not Kopitiam in LYN Forums (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1078985) where you talk cock and enjoice. We may take the micky out of this blogpost but other people not living in Malaysia will form their perceptions based on the unruly comments. No need to help the government further run the country down.

Paul, it is a fair article but it is a shame you were not able to experience the better side of our country more. Every country has its problems…some more than others but ultimately it is up to an individual to decide whether or not to focus on the positives or negatives.

paul

I am sorry bout your stay in malaysia…

what to do…when bee end is fulled of people who would do anything to suck any big shot dick that can provide juices, for their own satisfaction.

And the worst part is, their leaders know it and manipulate this situaton. HAHAHA the faggots… don't know that their are being used to suck dicks and ass

you should've have visits the opposition states, hey we have 8!!! now

PENANG FTW!!!!!

LYN Righteous Man u idiot! We have 5 opposition states…the 8 is of the ruling party. *shake head… no wonder the country is going down the drain.

oh shit….

that means i am a bee end

and i sucked cocks…

lol

really no wonder we running this country to Hell

Again Mr. Paul,

I am sorry for your incident
which incidently was caused by Carigold initially

As usual, well written and insightful. You took some risks with strong opinions and judgments, but when someone has traveled the world and been as curious about people and culture as you have, I think you earn that right. And the balance you give to your other posts will let any of your regular readers know that you are not asserting an agenda. Anyone who actually knows you must be amused by the responses you have generated, revealing the writers' ignorance, fears and prejudices, and unwittingly strenghtening your observations and assertions.

i come and read this story, i found some of it to be true, yes you say we have racism, what about usa?? theres no racism there?? what about singapore, japan, mexico?? everywhere you go you will see racism not just MALAYSIA, what you write here is just you portraying what usa is, you talk about us yet you still come here, if you dont like it you can leave. i dont even see any malaysians talk about usa, the way you talk. it seems that you fear us malaysian, your scared that one day we will go to your house and call you wanker or honkey, so what you say we are racist, what about usa?? think before you type. even though im a malaysian, i still can think, i dont go around degrading other peoples country.

i lived in malaysia for 9 years, and it is very hard to get used to that place, and the majority of the people there are so racist, they do know how to treat foreigners, they dont know how to behave, and wow read their comments,so pathetic

maybe paul upset no gay boys dressed as ladies will service his foreign cock

so he gets upset because KL is not bangkok

as the rule goes in /k/

PICS OF IT NEVER HAPPENED. i smell slender. i call BS on Paul's story. another foreign agent trying to tarnish malaysian awesomeness!

U re a person who is trying to speak up for yr country at the expense of bad-mouthing another country’s (or city’s), name. Wat kind of person u re. Thais re also patriotic ppl who can n will fight back. Want me to spread msg to them that someone is talking bad about their country?

Yes agreed my friend. Bangkok can never be KL cause Bangkok is safer, less corrupted, does not have much racism unlike KL u know…

paul u piece of white shit

i went to london.. full with racist scums too. bad transportation system.. always have tube strike. the buses also have leaky windows when it rains.. what else

oh yeah.. i fear for my safety. maybe al qaeda guy will blow himself up anytime. now london also have BNP racists

how about america

drug culture..racist cabbies. islamophobes

same shit..

Well, I am not Malaysian, and may be not being one of the main races in Malaysia I might have somehow more neutral point of view, for most people it is always greener on the other side and feel that they are living in hell. Well this is not always the case we have to be moderate in our actions . Malaysia is not the best place on earth but also it is not the worst, I do respect Paul for bringing the issue his country is suffering of , and the best action is not to react with pure emotions but we have to think about what he wrote and how to improve the weakness in our systems. Exchanging accusation between Malays, Chinese and Indians won’t bring anything except making things worse.
When I was there, I noticed in few cases how hatred (inherited most of the time) between races in Malaysia spoiled every thing and then the blaming session will start. I guess it is time for the Malays to be thankful for the other races on helping building Malaysia and the other races have to be thankful for Malays for sharing their land with them..
That is all.

As a Malaysian, its a shame to say that to a certain extent your article holds much truth. What's even sadder is the majority of visitors here(I daresay, are my own countrymen) who do not see these problems, and just blindly bash you. Even as a local, I feel my safety threatened more and more each day. Crime is rampant and nothing the police does (if they did anything at all) seem to be able to stop these criminals from rampaging even in broad daylight.

Do not even start with the political state of this country.

Transportation in general is still in a sorry state. Still…with the right people who is honest and knows whats good in the places in this country, I'm sure visitors will still be able to enjoy what this country has to offer 🙂

Thank you for your feedback. However, do give us a chance because we are still trying to become a better country. No hate us but if you do…please don't come here anymore. When it comes to racist…pls look at white man first…they are the most racist people in the world and pls read the history of aparteid. As for Malaysian…..just do our best, yes we are different but at the same time…we will always work hand in hand with other races.

People should read more carefully before becoming defensive and making knee-jerk reactions. Paul is clearly not implying that the U.S. is a bastion of security and civil rights; he writes, "Malaysia is, outside of the U.S., the country in which I've felt the greatest amount of animosity among different ethnic groups." In other words, he says he felt MORE animosity among ethnic groups in the U.S., which is understandable given the racism built into its Constitution and 200+ years of slavery and segregation.

Sometimes it is useful to look at criticism, particularly painful assessments, as an opportunity. Wouldn't it be better, instead of being a pig in a pen cursing the failures of the outside world, to make an effort to recognize the faults in your own world and fix them? Having come from an area of high crime and racial tension, I was amazed when I first went to a country where it was safe and people could walk the streets alone at night without fear, where people could trust each other and assume that strangers were good people instead of out to rip you off. And when I learned that society didn't have to be a place of fear, danger and distrust, I felt so angry that I had been taught that they were normal. They're certainly not!

I would hope that Malaysian readers could recognize that there might be better alternatives than the current social order and would work to find positive solutions instead of hating people for pointing out problems that many people don't even seem to recognize as problems.

I read your blog on Malaysia. I would agree with some of the contents of your blog. But there were also many parts which I felt were inaccurate. I get the impression that either your views on Malaysia were formed based on partial knowledge of the country or that your writing was partial and coloured by some mistreatment you probably suffered in Malaysia.

America's discrimination of its ethnic minority is no better than that in Malaysia. Its violence far worse. But would I call America a 3rd world country for these and other failings?

Your article merely focussed on what were the negative aspects, and sometimes rather inaccurately too. And that's not doing justice, counsel.

I just have 1 advice for the foreigners who found living in Malaysia intolerable. DON'T. Just pack up and leave. Why torture yourself. I'm sure no one is forcing you to stay.

Hi! Paul..Thank You for visiting Malaysia , i'm very sorry that you didn't have the chance to really visited Malaysia's positive side… While you were here. Just like what…delsoles said… I have to agree that ur post were made because of the Ugly experience that u have here while at Malaysia .I dont mind that that u had to get all those energy out By BLOGGING .and all that research and information that you u had post here is "YOUR VIEW" about My Country. Still i quite sad that the person that you had met were "Racist People" like the Chinese Aunty, and The Chinese Taxi Driver that you had QUOTE . about the racist storiest..(I'm myself a Chinese Malaysian). SHAME on them racist..Their really need to realize whether Malay, Chinese, Indian or other ethnic.. we are Still One MALAYSIA People.

"Calling other people's race by name and damning them is the works of Shaitan and just meaningless."

it not like we ask GOD to be born an Malay, an Chinese, an India.

Hopefully Paul..you can back to my Country again..one day.. and see the real MALAYSIA and not just the BAD side only..

Well done ! esp taxi drivers am a Malaysian living abroad and I CANT STAND THEM ! Its even worse where taxi drivers r known to drive you else where, pick pocket you etc. I am afraid to take taxis alone by my self at night. The LRT while a good effort is poorly connected. KL is just poor town planning. Still floods every year, the government does nothing.
The whole racial thing makes me sick. BTW i dont think its the Malays or Bumiputras who were the original settlers… most chinese folk can go back 10 generations. The truth is we will never know because histroy changes all the time in my country.
Also am pretty sick of people going around identifying them selves of indians or chinese they dont get it saying that ur indian or chinese means that you are form CHINA or INDIA. They continue to ridicule them selves telling people that while travelling abroad.

Strangely it is hard to be identified as a Malaysians as right till you were born till your government exams, looking for jobs you are required to state ethnicity. load of crap. no one asks me what I am here.

also the whole religion thing is a load of hypocracy. Most people are not 100 % practicing it but then the time comes everyone want to be religion x,y,z get touchy and sentimental. they dont even know the meaning of actually calling your self religion x,y,z. unlike in western countries it doesn’t mean that u r born religion x as your parents are ur x. people here r proud to say they have no religion or not practicing. Folk back home perhaps pray 3 times a year and indulge in all that’s wrong still call themselves religion x. As a 'religious' country its good to know that bribery is an open thing in the country and treating people unfairly is also allowed.. religion huh !

Having said the above there are many good things such as the neighborly spirit, lovely beaches, good food, etc.

I am amazed at how well you analysed the Malaysian scenario. It's all so true, unfortunately. I am a Malaysian and I am ashamed at how things are. I wish I could blame it all on the undemocratic political system that the governing party uses to continue manipulating inter-racial tension to perpetuate its reign. But I also think that we have somehow lost ourselves, our dignity while we were (and still are) trying to become a modern country. The overemphasis on the hardware (infrastructure, physical development) and not enough on the software has turned us into a shallow nation, a hard concrete structure that is all hollow inside. I am a Malay and I am against the racist, pro-Malay policies. I travel extensively to Indonesia, Thailand and Laos and each time, I am humbled by the way things are in these countries and saddened by how different the scenario is in mine. But I believe that all this could change. It's not going to be easy (just look at the comments given by my so-called patriotic countrymen!) but change it we must at least try!

Hey Paul( that's your name as of this blog right?), I've browsed through every negative and positive remarks there are to this post of yours, and I'm not surprised at all. This only shows the hard ugly reality. People, deemed 'patriotic' just doesn't know how to move on. There are a few exceptions of course. I'm sure many of the people who commented on this post, is educated or tech-savvy enough to turn on the computer, click on any internet browser, search for blogs on travels and actually coming to type words on it. This means you are already quite technologically advanced.
I, being a Malaysian myself, don't understand how these defensive people here, are able to be proud of Malaysia, ok, maybe only Kuala Lumpur for this instance. -Hey no hard feelings, fellow Malaysians- I guarantee you, if there's ever a conference on, let's say a topic on 'World's worst bus terminals', and MIRACALOUSLY KL came up as a nominee, the 'patriotics' will not dare to step up to the plate.
I mean, come on, just look at what our Minister's doing now. Take for example, Tourism Minister, Ng Yen Yen. She's idling her time away, bloody hell trying to politically divide FOOD now, FOOD for pete's sake. Yes, I can comprehend they are trying to boost Tourism, but what in the world, has acclaiming food as a nation's own, come into that context? I applaud Paul, for his truthful comments on Malaysia. Truly Asia.

On a completely side note, I would had personally see to that assaulter of yours, have a taste of his own medicine. Cheers.

Why dude? Upset that your country do not have the racial harmony mine has isit… too bad little boy…

I read the comments left in your post with glee, as I realized that 90% of the people who anonymously posted a comment here.. were in fact Malaysian, or people who claim to be Malaysians.

I am a Malaysian, of that, I am certain. And I, no doubt love my country, but I feel ashamed of the narrow-mindedness of some of my fellow Malaysians. They hide behind their computer screens and type hate messages behind anonymous names. Come on la….

Anyway, Paul, your article is a shining beacon of light for those who are in the dark over what is actually happening here. And believe me, when I say that Puduraya is but a taste of the corruption and disease afflicting this country.

70% of the world knows that we are relatively inferior compared to our neighbours down south, and we choose not to do anything about it, but sit back and accuse that 70% of shoving their noses in other peoples business. Yes, laziness at the highest degree; and what disgusts me even more is the fact that they try to politicise anything and everything.

To all you Malaysians out there.. wake up la.. and smell the stench of the rotting country you guys are shamelessly trying to defend.

I agree with you, I am a Malaysian myself but I can’t help but see that my country is being torn down by those that believe the they are better than other countries. Honestly, I’m dissapointed at them but all I can do right now is see the positive side of Malaysia.

Well done, Paul, for this post. I was born in Malaysia, and have been Malaysian all my life, but I totally agree with you with nearly everything you've mentioned in your post.

Malaysia is a country run by apes and chimpanzees, and yes, we have the worst taxis in the world and one of the worst transportation systems you can find, all this in a country pretending to be on the verge of becoming a first world nation. And judging from the really shallow and idiotic hate comments here, filled with profanities and name-calling, the country is also inhabited by a healthy population of primates of little or no intelligence too.

I myself am half Malay but I still agree with the comments of many people you have encountered in Malaysia, that the local Malays are WEAK, BACKWARD, LAZY, COWARDLY and FANATICALLY RELIGIOUS and the racist and discriminatory policies they've set for the country are truly one of the biggest obstacles for this young nation to progress.

Compared to Indonesians, our local Malays are a lot more backward in their thinking and mindset. Indonesians have a glorious culture and history to look up to, and oh yes, they invented the Pendet Dance, while over here…. well, forget it.

Paul, I'm a Malaysian Chinese who has lived in Malaysia literally my whole life. Your lucid observations of Malaysia and its people are absolutely spot-on. As can be seen from the postings above mine, the intelligent ones agree with your points, while the others merely prove them right.

There is a serious lack of decency, integrity, and civic-mindedness among Malaysians that are hallmarks and indeed, the pillars of the societies of true first world countries.

A country is only as strong as its people are, and on this basis alone, we will never be a first world nation. Sad, but ultimately, true.

It is unfortunate that so many malaysians have such a backward mentality.

Criticism should be accepted in order to improve onself.

I hope that you, the author of this post, realize that many of the people who are critical of your views have known no other country – and blind nationalism can translate into anonymous, empty hateful rhetoric.

I would not go so far as to say that Malaysia is a lost cause, but yeah, there are serious issues in malaysia largely stemming from the divide between rich and poor. It is easy to criticize those who partake in scams…but the crux of the matter is that many people cannot find decent jobs. Working at MacDonalds earns you less than USD2 per hour… so go figure.

The article is well written, and it is shameful that so many people got the wrong idea – it is likely that english was not their mother tongue and they misunderstood sentences such as "Malaysia is, outside of the U.S., the country in which I've felt the greatest amount of animosity among different ethnic groups." – that really implied that there is more racial tension in the states.

This article is well intentioned and highlights a growing problem in malaysian cities.

I have to add that this is not the case out of the cities. I have travelled the breadth of peninsular malaysia myself, and I speak on the behalf of fellow malaysian when I say that you have only seen the worst of Malaysia.

In the rural areas, I have never been ripped off,…from food to night market vendors, especially in settlements (both chinese and malay predominannt ones). Prices are advertised and people are honest and friendly.

Malaysia’s Taxi Services are truly well-known in the World for the Wrong Reason.

Asking for exorbitant and high fees is not uncommon practice here.

My blog has a write up on Taxi fee Increase

I must say, the first impression on reading this post is I'm sorry for your bad experience in Malaysian.
Like other Malaysian here who is normal enough not to throw a handful of verbal abuses at you, I also want to apologize for the 'mindless' comments you are getting here.

What you've written is quite true, but nobody is doing anything to improve/fix it -_-ll
And all the stuff you’ve written, more or less are what I wish to voice out but can’t as we are not allowed to write bad stuff about our country.
It’s just too bad that you only see the bad parts of Malaysia.

I must apologise on behalf of my fellow countrymen. There is no such thing as a fully working system, i.e. public transportation, education and health, that is just and proud-of.

Due to that, you get a lot of people who thinks in a special kind of way. There are a few good examples in the comments posted.

Hence we have the term "Malaysia Boleh" or "Malaysia Can". I'd rephrase that "Malaysia Could-Have".

As for racism, we are the worst culprits. We are biased even to our own race/ ehtnic background, yet alone other races.

i'm a malaysian, born & grew up here. i salute your braveness to step foot to our notorious puduraya. i don't even dare to drive pass that area.

Very well written. Thanks for bringing these issues to international level. Good to pressure the arrogant and ignorant Malaysia government.

P/S: I'm a Malaysian and I can't agree more with your arguments.

paul, what makes you think that your country is any better?? just because no one has written about it doesnt mean no one knows about whats going on over there. youre just a big fat hypocrite. thats what you are, you faggot.

And yes, do keep the comments from those retarded Malaysian apologists, need not remove. They have served as excellent contrast elements to what the government has been trying hard, throwing all the taxpayers' money into drain (and pockets) to portrait the civilized image of the country and the people.

i haf to say, the criticism is dearly harsh paul .. can't deny that every country has its own problem; be-it racism, cultural issue, political disturbance & economically.

in malaysia, many areas has been look into & the issues which u hi-lighted / blogged is nothing compared to what other countries are facing. if we were to debate this, i believe it could go on forever & ever.

no doubt there is still many of areas which malaysia need to improve to be a definite so-called "world-class" country, however, do note that we've only had 50 years of independence.
compared the duration to that of some western countries (& even our asian counterparts), malaysia is very much an infant

anyway, my dear fellow malaysian, pls understand the freedom of speech. our dear friend paul are blogging out of experiences, & not speculation 🙂
for such harsh (& colorful) comments will only brand us further down as citizens of "999th" world-country .. o.0"

rgds, a-malaysian & proud to be one!

im a malaysian.
and i agree.
sadly.
wtf is wrong with these malaysians. commenting like the're the shit and all.do u even understand what they are talking about?
embarrassing.

Hi paul,
I am so sorry for your bad experience in our country. The majority of Malaysians are unfortunately still plagued by backward thinking and struggling to earn a living.so you have (all races) touts, dishonest businesmen snatch thieves ,corrupted cops and constipated taxi drivers. We're definitely a third world country with good infrastructure in the city.To future tourists (genuine malaysians will always welcome you) pls be aware of snatch thieves.Their operating hours are early morning and late evenings. be careful when you hear a motorcycle suddenly rev up near you. Other than that, Malaysia is generally …er ..okay for touristy stuff. I cant even begin to describe the embarassment I feel when tourists are targets for petty crime which seems rampant these days!

I find myself agreeing to many of the points you made in your post. Still it is a pity that you did not get to see the good stuff in my country. I really sympathise with your horrible experience while in the, admittedly equally bad, Puduraya, and in meeting racists. Most assuredly, not all of us are like that. Hopefully one day you will come back to Malaysia and have a nicer memory of your time here.

I agree with you Paul. I have been living in Malaysia for several years now. I can say that it's true KL is a bad area as it invites bad people.

I live in East Malaysia and have never experienced anything that happened to you in Puduraya bus terminal. Yes the taxis in all parts of Malaysia are out to cheat you. They even cheat the locals. The government needs to enforce use of meters and give stiff penalties and some form of reporting system that tourist can complain to and follow up. But to be effective locals also need to report them.

I agree that their are some tension between the locals. Only they can settle it. It will take more than 50 years to resolve this problem.

As for indonesia it is a dangerous place if u are caught in a demonstration or mass civil unrest which seems to happen alot in major cities of Indonesia. South Thailand, Ambon Indonesia, Aceh, and many other areas of Indonesia do have racial tensions.

As a foreigner living and having Malaysian born children I still cannot get residence. My son has a Malaysian passport but I cannot apply for a Visa using his status as my son as a reference. Go figure!

Paul, while I agree with your comments about Pudu Raya, I do not think Malaysia is as bad as you portray. I empathize with your bad experience within such a short stay but I think Malaysia should not be characterized so easily. As with every country, there are many aspects and layers to things.
We have a bad government but there are good Malaysians too.

Some things work and some do not. Maybe people go to Thailand because they smile more and are Buddhists. However, one cannot rule out the possibility that it is also because Thailand is cheaper, has a big sex industry and a lot of the smiles are money-worship.

p/s: I apologize for the bad Malaysians' comments in here. These are the ones who drag the rest of Malaysia down with them.

I am with you man! Malaysia somehow is still a very thuggish country. Full of crimes, full of cowboy drivers, full of con artists and also very distressing, full of snatch thieves. Recently I stayed in Penang Eva Hotel and there is a big sign warning of snatch thieves. Not all the blames goes to Malaysian locals I have to say. You just cannot tell an Indon from Malaysian Malays visually esp for foreigners, so a lot of crooked stuff are done by these illegals. Your Pudu Raya experience probably done by locals.

The taxi experience I had flat rate charges in Penang and KL as well. Just last month I believe the taxi drivers got a huge increase in the fare they charge passengers. I hope this will give them zero excuse to avoid metering the ride. In my Penang experience I was quoted the flat rate as you experienced, a take it or leave it attitude I can somewhat understand why they don't meter the fare as in a less dense environment they will usually come back empty so they want to cover themselves with flat rates. The authorities should recalibrate their fares and make a very clear black and white complaints notice built right into the driver's license on the passenger side so there is zero chance for abuse. Let's just say Malaysia is still full of 'second rated' people, even though it had come a long way.

There are really quite a few nice places to see in Malaysia, just get out of the cities and enjoy the natural environment and rural places. There I bet you will find much better people around. I hope you will revisit Malaysia but head out of the cities and enjoy 'laid back' Malaysia.

A Malaysian In USA

I'm truly sorry for your bad experience in Malaysia…But I'm rather curious…it seems that your review here only focusses on Puduraya..I must say that Puduraya is not reflect well on the nation, but maybe you shouldnt judge us based on this station alone…I mean, any decent, sensible Malaysian would avoid or spend the least amount of time there. Malaysians are generally kind and courteous….perhaps you've been mixing with the wrong crowd (the rant on racial politics seems to suggest so..). Sure, we're not lovey dovey like the ads, but most of us do get along…

If there is one thing that will bring Malaysians together (and this is a sad fact) is "defending" Malaysia from a "Malaysia-basher". Maybe we (yes I am Malaysian) should have more "Malaysia-bashers" out there so we can finally be united in a cause.

When it comes to malaise between the races, it comes from only proud ancestral traditions and staunch adherence to psycho human interpretations of our major religions. More common to people of the book of course.

However, I don't see how this affects travelers and how this makes Malaysia a bad place to travel to. I for instance, won't decide to travel to a country just because two/three races in that country hate each other. Just as long as they don't hate me openly (the other countries are more "1st world" as they only hate people of other races/nationalities behind their backs). And the last i checked, we adore white men in Asia, especially our ladies (more money for the economy & me!).

Lastly, with regards to public transport, we may be far from the best but we are certainly far from the worst as well. And Paul, don't you know better than to never take the local bus in a country you aren't comfortable with? Didnt you attempt to google the reliable intercity bus operators and to look for their counters in puduraya (some of them are not even based in puduraya)? And Paul, take the LRT/KTM commuter/Monorail and walk (like the other backpacker tourists) if you decide to spend more time in KL.

Being street smart is what Malaysians living in KL (or just about any major city with "problems") are about. Stay out of trouble, find reliable business people/premises, avoid touts, avoid quiet alleys, keep your things safe and leave your prejudices at home. Things that you usually take for granted at home I guess. And finally, for god sakes, make some friends with the other expats (go look for em in any bar/pub/nice restaurant/drinking hole) – they'd gladly show you the ropes. Afterall, some of them have "survived" this country fine & intact for years.

Yep, Malaysia. That's the sad state of my country. And the junk comments you see here, that is what we call it, the Malaysian mentality. Agree, we are a racist lot. Still waiting for the day when I will no longer be asked what's my race for my inability to speak Chinese (from my fellow brethren).

Well, it is dangerous but not THAT dangerous… I walk around in the dark often in deserted areas e.g. back alleys and the robber looking foreigners just ignores me… But I do glare at them with the "I will kill you" face… Plus, those immigrants would try to cut everyone's lines but mine at train stations… The trick is to stare at them like you're mad, and hurl insults at them… Insults meaning their nationality, their race and religion… It hurts most when you call them dirty… (Yeah!!! I openly practice racism) I've been doing this for 6 years and have not been bashed up… Seems like they like to target weak-looking people and if you look overly innocent or if you look like you're some triad boss' son, you're free to do anything… As a chinese ethnic, I don't like indians… But I do have 2 malay ethnic friends… Few if compared to the chinese people… That puduraya issue, just aim for the counters and avoid those dudes with walkie talkies and if they speak to you, do not acknowledge their existence and act like they're not there… I do not love this country and neither do I love singapore or indonesia or anywhere else… This is where I live and if you stop thinking about the inequalities, and stop looking for the bad stuff in it, it could be a decent country to live in… But you'll need some getting used to… I do not like every malays out there but I do not like every chinese and indians out there too… Some chinese are just plain caucasian wannabes particularly around subang and damansara area where they're somehow concentrated… In other areas, the chinese can carry lots of chinese pride and the chinese language seems like the world to them… And they can't speak in any other languages other than chinese… Some malays are just racist and some indians are just plain chaiwala (tea bearer) like… They always think they're better than they are… Narcissistic??? More like annoying…

well come to think of it, malaysia is a land of immigrants. if look at history, u can find out yourself. Not to pick on the malays but thei language itself says it all. most of their words are borrowed from other languagues. U name it, snaskrit, tamil, english even chinese. now dont get surprised my frens. but as a citizen of this country, i believe we have to look beyond dat. y bring race n religion if u wanna live in harmony? as far as i know no religion or race encourages fights, theft, well u know wat i mean. it will be better be look each other as a human race n make the country a place. after all, if u cut my wrist, the blood is still red. not blue, red or yellow. make one malaysia possibguys. not by saying it but working towards it. truth is always bitter. there's no point denying wat happening while every1 knows da truth. lets accept da truth and work towards a better MALAYSIA. i believe we can do it.

Wow…Malaysian sure is dangerous for tourists…
Its not at all like the UK or Germany…
You wouldnt get robbed on UK streets, shot at during carnival in London, or harassed by drunk people
People wouldnt pick on you and call you "Indo" in Berlin
Yeah, no drug dealer would sell you drugs at Ku'Dam's bahnhof
Sure, Malaysia is so dangerous, I wouldnt get out of your hotel at all if I were you. Better watch BBC news in safety.
If you still dont get it, I'm being sarcastic here.
Yes, Malaysia has its flaws (as any other country), but I just dont get some of you Malaysian not even being a little bit proud when people complain about the nation.
Can I ask you Paul…did you ever try have dinner with any Malays…It seems you were only making friends with the Chinese..maybe because you could easily have a drink with them…
Maybe you just didnt try at all.
And, finally, keep to writing about travelling Paul, you're not much of a political critic

I'm a Malaysian but I don't agree with what Amir said. Puduraya Station is a main station where you need to visit for taking buses to other states in Malaysia or even to Singapore/Thailand. The tourists are our guests, should we need to ensure our guests' safety and make Malaysia a safe place to live by the tourists and local people?

I am astonished at what Paul had said about Malaysia social-economy issues, they are so real. You are a great observant!

Everyone must cast vote based on performance of the party which forms the government. For sure I won't choose the current one!

I'm a Malaysian but I don't agree with what Amir said. Puduraya Station is a main station where you need to visit for taking buses to other states in Malaysia or even to Singapore/Thailand. The tourists are our guests, shouldn't we need to ensure our guests' safety and make Malaysia a safe place to live by the tourists and local people?

I am astonished at what Paul had said about Malaysia social-economy issues, they are so real. You are a great observant!

Everyone must cast vote based on performance of the party which forms the government. For sure I won't choose the current one!

Look at all the comments posted above me, all are the by-products of typical Malaysian elitism attitude. An attitude gained by Malaysians who do not have a sense of identity and go about copying others and while hiding behind a web of anonymity, cuss and call you names. I myself would show who I am but that would only mean getting my own site ravaged by these hooligans. The mindset of Malaysians who could not live with the positive endings of harsh criticism are the bane of the population's improvement. How is one to improve without being told the truth of what we are doing wrong?

Paul, I myself am a Malaysian Chinese who agrees with what you say. This has been the way of life for Malaysians, and trust me you have not seen the "true" Malaysia. This is a place ruled by violence and to some extend, tyranny. The minorities are shut out and majorities still live on with their mentality of being the one with the "rights" to live here.

Malaysia is built on the hard work of multiple ethnicity's, and in my opinion it's not fair to continue living with said mentality and not acknowledge the contribution of others. WE built this nation, WE should live in it. I'm not asking for the full retraction of the Bumiputra rights, but do not implement further rights to tip the already bias scale against the minorities.

How this nation if going to improve? I don't know, if the government continue promoting Malaysia as what we are now via CNN and other media interactions, we are digging a deeper grave for our tourism industry. This country is beautiful in every means, and I mean it when I say that. The outskirts of Malaysia who are not plagued by the riches-chasing individuals are warm and ever friendly, and those are the places you should consider visiting if you ever want to take another chance at visiting Malaysia.

My recommendation? Head for the beaches and islands. Pangkor, Redang, Perhentian, Sipadan are the places Malaysia is proud of.

I would just like to point out; please note the difference between hating Malaysia and hating the Malaysian government. I grow up with with the mentality of the former, but as maturity and understanding sets in, I now believe in the latter.

seriously you know nothing about malaysia your probably australian british or american and you guys are the fastest in the world to judge malsyai is a wonderful country is beautiful and amazing i am indian malay myself and i should know wat its like and you know nothing so i suggest u delete this or if u ever enter malaysia again there will not be the ebst holiday for you malaysia has amazing people there is just kerruption going on riite now with the goverment and things are getting sorted out so just shut yuor mouth you can not judge i hate people whoo say malaysia is badd well maybe if u focus on malaysias negatives ill focus on urs and ur countries cause shows me u never focuss on evrything positive and all non malaysians who r agreeing with him ur just as badd

(Anonymous, November 14, 2009 1:57 AM) As a malaysian I'd like to believe what you are saying. But the truth is not pleasant.

Malaysia is generally on the right track, with appropriate emphasis on education and a burgeoning middle class, but the pitfalls of fast development and corruption are starting to become blaring, and the risk of Malaysia turning into a failed state is real.

Unless you have experienced life abroad, in a more egalitarian society, when a fair day's (unskilled) wage can support a family and rent… and the government has adequate social services and amenities… You cannot say what you just did.

After living in a first world country for three years, I can certainly see the point where the author is coming from.

The grass can really be greener on the other side.

Well, Malaysia has got lots of beautiful beaches, resorts and forests. I believe that in every country you go to, there is bound to be an area that is high-classed and another to be low. Just mingle around the more sophisticated Malaysia and the problem's solved!

Create ur own world.every country had a bad side, jst dun insert politic view inside, politic is always bad around the world…

not so nice post about malaysia..
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Sorry about your stay in Malaysia. Have to admit though, to encounter so many unfortunate events in such a short period time is just sheer misfortune. However, I'd like to point out that your blog can be viewed publicly. So before you jump into conclusions about Malaysia, kindly spend a little more time there.

The truth hurts.

The Chinese or the yellow race is what brings progress. Just look at Asia……….is enough.

Whether they do it internationally or locally they will survive.

We can distinctly see the lowering of Malaysia standards of living as the percentage of Chinese in this country goes down.

In the 70s we were tops with 40 over percent of Chinese and today with only 25 percent we are far behind Singapore, Hong Kong and Korea.

Main reason is the number of such Chinese migrating to these countries – the best ones and rich ones.

Next ten years as the percentage goes even lower, we would be nearing Indonesia or Philippines.

Meanwhile enjoy your stay and the good time.

On the whole as the Chinese spreads out throughout the world, the average standards of these will have much higher standards of living over others.

It is a sad story for both Sabah and Sarawak for joining Malaysia. Just look at Brunei and Singapore to see the answer.

Sabah and Sarawak is being raped by Malaya till dry, all the oil and timber from the two states is being used to finance all the failed projects and also to feed all the Umno zealots.

Ask the Iban and Kandazan, they are being marginalized. Now the government even want to make the country into an Islamic state, did Sabah and Sarawak agree to join an Islamic state in the first place?

September 16 is a day for mourning, a day of shame for Malaysia.

The truth is Chinese inject entrepreneurial and economic progress in South East Asia. If the Chinese left Malaysia, your economy would be on the verge of collapse and will become little more than a backwater hellhole.

There are very simple reasons why Chinese do not fully assimilate into malay society. It is because the malay people are very hostile and disrespectful to the Chinese. It is well ingrained in their society, this anti-Chinese sentiment.

Also, given this hostility, why should Chinese integrate with your society? Let me tell you, it is a very simple reason. Unlike primitive tribesmen minorities in your territories, our civilization and culture is actually far superior than your malay culture.

We are the inheritors of one of the greatest civilizations in human history. Why do we want to downgrade our cultural knowledge and perception, and accept a backward and undeveloped primitive culture?

You Malaysians, Filipinos and Indonesians need to learn from the example of the Thais. They are friendly to Chinese and many Thai Chinese are very integrated and are loyal to Thailand. However, they also have links to China and bring the two countries closer.

Hence, China and Thailand enjoy very strong relations and all of this bodes well for Thailand economically and politically. It is no wonder Thailand has experienced a great deal of economic progress.

Too, I lived in Malaysia before and let me tell you that Malaysia is not rich. The government owes a lot of money to Japan and other countries. The nation is corrupted! In outside look, you think Malaysia is rich but the truth is Malaysia is very poor. A lot of projects have been cancelled such as new airport in Kuching, and etc.

Indeed right, in Malaysia the malays are like shit. They disrespect the Chinese. And you want to know why the malay government has money? It is because the tax! Chinese pay high tax to the malay government where the malay government even use quota control!

The malays given of special treatment, the government give money to the malays because without this, the malays will have nothing! We Chinese in Malaysia depend on ourselves! We earn money on ourselves!

The Chinese in Malaysia is dropping rapidly, one day and one day will come, when the malays don't like Chinese and riot, then we Chinese move away and hahaha! Malaysia will become like Indonesia!

Now look at your Indonesia, last time when Chinese there, the government can be rich. Now when Chinese gone – your country like shit! Hahaha! This is dream funny!

Racism in Malaysia is apparent to anyone who has eyes! Malays are just a bunch of cripples who will collapse to the ground if their tongkat is taken away.

Remove their constitutional rights, their 7% discount on houses, their 30% equity in companies, their quota system in public universities etc……….what is left?

Only a bunch of malays begging in gutters or worse, they may have to eat pork to survive!

The malays do not exist as a unique tribe but are the result of centuries of mix amongst various ethnic groups – migrants from Yunnan, Polynesia, Java, Sumatra, Turkey, Arabia, India, Siam, Cambodia, Laos.

Once they began to populate the Malayan Peninsula – (which wasn't named for the malay race but derives from the Tamil word for "mountain" – malai) they figured it would be advantageous to claim ownership of the land by dubbing it Tanah Melayu.

It was mostly a political part of various pirate bloodlines to create their own Promised Land.

It is blatantly obvious to everybody except Umno gangs. That is because they are corrupted, suffering from denial syndrome, regressive Muslims, low IQ and living in the past. They would rather see and prefer the nation going to the dogs than having meritocracy and doing away with NEP.

Otherwise, how does one explain the rot and malaise this country is suffering?

fargowin
"The Chinese or the yellow race is what brings progress. Just look at Asia……….is enough."

I can go on and on about how Imperial China was backward in so many ways… but i'll just say that you are a bloody racist. It's like white people saying that white people are more civilized. So you think your yellow skin makes you a better person than brown skinned people? No wonder brown skin people are fearful their ricebowls will be taken over by the yellow people lol.

You criticize racial affirmative policies yet you yourself are so openly bigoted and racist. Blatant hypocrisy!

All men and women are born equal and should be judged as individuals. Such racial pride will be to the detriment of the country.

Boleh
We are the inheritors of one of the greatest civilizations in human history. Why do we want to downgrade our cultural knowledge and perception, and accept a backward and undeveloped primitive culture?

Yet another bigoted racist prick. It's people like you who are causing the rift to widen, not just certain malays.

Look, as far as I can tell, neither culture is superior to the other. Sure, one generally lived in metro areas while the other lived in the villages, but as a person who has LIVED in BOTH chinese and malay predominant areas, I say with certainty that race does not confer superiority to a person.

A malay kid born to a middle income family with two children living in the city is just the same as a chinese kid born to a middle income family with two children living in the city.

The chinese may have higher average test scores because they are so damn kiasu and go for tuition and whatnot, but in a fair play scenario, In my case, a boarding school where the brightest malays and chinese and indians did an international foundation program without discrimination: The urban chinese were no better off than the urban malays. THAT SAID, many of the RURAL malays did have a significant disadvantage and it did reflect in their results (in my observation) but thankfully most did quite well too.

What im trying to say is that factors other than race seem to be associated with success.

That's what makes America, UK and Australia such a great destination for migrants: Your skin colour confers you no advantage OR disadvantage by law and government policies.

But yellow skinned pricks like you think your skin color makes you superior to other human beings. That makes you no different from people like Ibrahim Ali (of PERKASA fame). I hope you never get to live/work in countries that try to be fair to people regardless of skin color.

(good man, i copy pasted this from my blog on your behalf. The original comment on my blog has been removed as it is off topic to the post. -ezra)

It is undeniable that malays are stupid, incapable and lazy. Why don't they just humbly admit the facts and repent and learn from other races especially Chinese?

What is the point to argue here and wasting time again?

From the first onwards we were merely telling the truths. It wasn't us who think that way but their own Badawi as well.

All malays should go and read the newspaper, even Badawi is ashamed of maintaining the NEP after 34 years of implementing it and these malay baboons are still asking for it.

Even Badawi wanted them to compete on a level playing field.

So what does all these tell the world? It sends a very clear message that it is malays themselves who are incapable and lazy and they don't even want to admit it and make a change!

That is the biggest shame of all.

Can't you see, it is all back to square one. Year in, year out, some talk for half an hour, some one, some two. Some sing, many belt out their most recent released 'pantun'.

After all. Malays are good at that. Suggestions after suggestions, some good, some impossible to realize.

But, do you see any of these materialised? Hardly. Why, why and why???

Because the malays can never change. Never! Why?

The leaders forgot it or were they simply didn't want to address and admit that the actual disease is the malays and the remedy itself is also, the malays. They can never change. What is it about the malays?

Firstly as you all know, they are a lazy species. Since the beginning of time they have been like that. Even the encyclopedia called them as lazy people. I think those British with their accent tried to call them 'malas', and if you put 'y' in, it becomes 'malays'.

Embracing Islam make them a worse lot. Now they have a license to kill anything that gets into their way.

Malays are ungrateful lot. In reality, they just can't live or open their minds for others. When Mahathir said that they are complacent, they put him in jail. When Mahathir encouraged them to learn English language, they got angry with him, saying it is a 'bahasa penjajah'.

When other races 'maju', they got angry with them too. That was why at the end of Mahathir his regime, he said this, "I have achieved greatness as a prime minister, but I only fail in one thing, changing the malays."

Well, nothing to be surprised about anyway since Mahathir is not really a malay, and I guess that was why the malays were angry with him.

Drug abuse, hate, incest, liberal extremism (culture of miniskirts and gay marriages), murder, parochialism, racism, rape, religious fanaticism, snatch theft, spoilt bratty behavior, tribalism, wife abuse, child abuse, all that is associated with the malay race.

To them, malay is the biggest impediment towards building a truly Malaysian nation, and should be chucked into the dustbins of history.

A genetically flawed race cannot be fixed by politically. Nature will take its course and globalization will put them out to pasture.

What have we got now?

Brain drain, economic disparity getting wider, poor education system, racial segregation, widespread corruption, inefficiency and uncompetitive on the government departments and others.

Sad. Sad. Sad. The question asked by many of my fellow Chinese is this – Why can't you just tell the malay peoples to adopt Chinese culture which is superior?

From research, this peninsular was part of the Siamese empire way before these malays from Indonesia invaded it.

Still so thick skin, don't want to go back to Indonesia!

good man said: "A genetically flawed race cannot be fixed by politically."

Firstly, I many difficult to understanding your england.

"-.- You take chinese racist pride to the next level. SO what's next? Extermination of malays? You are starting to sound like Hitler ffs. I suspect you're the type of person who would segregate buses if you had the chance with your high and mighty righteous yellow skin.

Indonesians consist of many races, and there are many ETHNIC CHINESE Indonesians who speak only indonesian and not a word of chinese who would be offended by your statement.

Also note that "malay" is a very small specific race from a small province in Indonesia.

To other readers: Note that "Malay" in the malaysian context is not a race per se. It is a nationality as defined by the constitution. The difference is that ethnicity is determined by genes alone. Traditionally, Malay's consisted of a melting pot of different races from the malay archipelago (bugis, natives, javanese etc). But due to the loose definition in the constitution, many other people are also technically malays. One notable example is the former prime minister of malaysia: Mahatir mohammad, who is half Indian (his father was ethnic indian and from Kerala).

Let's pray for our leaders to be discerning in making decisions to change our country..

More and more of our professionals are migrating to other nearby countries. This is saddening… Sometimes,I wonder if I am in Malaysia when I visit KL city during the weekends.

We must unite. =(

Hi Paul,
sorry for our bad experience. But I believe it can happen to anyone anywhere around the globe. But to degrade Malaysia completely is not fair especially it was made based on a biased perspective and during a short period of stay. I appreciate your frankness and to be frank myself, I found some tourist especially the one that proclaimed that they are from the 1st civilized country usually like to amuse themselves with countries that are still pagan and poorly developed and such they say have a very unique cultures and wuts not (layman term: you found it a very interesting country if the people still live on trees and worshipping fearsome idols). I'm not calling myself patriotic, and agree that Malaysia is not one 'perfect' country.. but who's perfect anyway?? 🙂 adios

MALAYSIA FOR ME IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ENTIRELY..NOT LIKE OTHER COUNTRY AT SOUTH EAST ASIA..I LIKE THE PEOPLE SERIOUSLY..AND YOU KNOW WHAT EVERY YEARS I WOULD SPEND MY TIME TO VISIT THE LOVELY MALAYSIA…NO COUNTRY LIKE SINGAPR,INDON AND THAI CAN BEAT MALYASIA..I AM DUTCH…MY FAMILY ALSO LOVE TO VISSIT MALAYSIA…THE EXPERIENCE JUST LIKE WE GO TO JAPAN AND KOREA…SO KUALA LUMPUR FOR ME WOULD BE SAME LIKE PARIS ONE DAY….

I HOPE IN YOUR COUNTRY YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO USE THE CAPS LOCK KEY IT IS THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR KEYBOARD NEXT TO TO SHIFT KEY YOU UNCIVILIZED IDIOT.

Malay balancing hard earned based on what is demanded by the teachings of Islam.Malays in the event of being like other people who justify anything, even though they know the harm and offense.
Sure Malays are more advanced than other nations.Its should be the Malays and indigenous people in Malaysia get it right. The Chinese and Indians are given the final say whether to stay in Malaysia or return to their dissimilar.

Chinese and Indian people knew the event they return to their home countries, they will treat more severe. why? they are considered rebel against their own country because they fight for independence Malaysia.Only now the Indian and Chinese began to demand the right is not for the Chinese and Indian.

Thats just part only, does not reflect who is loyal to Malaysia.Malaysia is indeed concerned with the problems of citizens. Government take time and require a fair leader to help the fate of every citizen.

Anywhere in the world there must be criminal.What happened to you is not representing their other.Only some selfish person and willing to violate the order for personal enjoyment.Is not fair to evaluate, with couple day being in Malaysia.

Hopefully you study more about Malaysia then you will know how different Malaysia is it.

Malaysia education is much better then other country.Malaysia give it opportunity to student to study anything around the world.

Ask Malaysia people about your country ,seriously maybe their more know about your country then you.
Thats why Malaysia people is can join people around the world without fear or else.

Hi, there Paul!!! How did u know such extremely well about the system in Malaysia since u're just having a short stay here in the country? I totally agree on what u said in the article, but somehow disagree on the part u describe the characteristics of the 3 ethnics.. 🙂

Who is "good man" who commented on May 11, 2010 2:38 AM??
May i know which race are u?
Seriously curious coz u wrote ezra there!!! =D

Racism exists everywhere. I'm from the UK and before anyone shows me a litany of real race/religion relations problems (IRA bombings, Islamophobia etc.) let me admit it's alive and well in Britain too. I've lived in the US as well and the recent race riots in Oakland, California are a case in point right now in 2010.

I've lived in Malaysia for a few years now and while like other places, it has a fair share of problems, this is by far the most tolerant place I've known. Just one case in point; the Batu Caves near KL has the biggest Hindu god statue in east Asia! In UK and US we have demos against mosques all the time.

Don't be too hard on this NOT bad, truly Asian country 🙂

Well,Paul,that is your views. As for me for being Malaysian people almost 50 years,your views are totally wrong!!! We never had strong cases of violence since Malaysia has a very strict law.Maybe you can describe you being physically attacked more deeper? Perhaps you just want to make stories…

Second,it is true that Malaysia does has racism and racial tension but it had became history.You need to read more about Malaysia history before you brings out this topic. Through racial unity, Malaysia was being formed today. Please read about 1 Malaysia that being formed by our Prime Minister recently. I got many friends from different races and we never had even slightest racial tension.

About Bumiputera, you need to read more about Malaysia. It is true that Bumiputera gets advantages, but other races also get advantages. You need to read about Malaysia constitution. That why you need to read more before you accusing Malaysia.

I don't want to comment more but i hope you will change your views about Malaysia. To all readers, please reviews before making any assumptions.

Agree with you Paul…… some are nice but the system make them become a racism even between malay to malay. never seen kind of selfish muslim like malay really. the country develop more than many Asian country but people are still not like they said truly Asia????? For my openion when I visit between Malaysia and Loas, Loas people who is the country not develop more like malasia. they still better. i didn't mean everybody in malaysia is bad. Chinese malay are very serious in business that's good point to make more improve but the goverment give more benefits to Real malay more than any other race. Even they are so lazy still have more chance in this country.

O yeah, Malaysia is retarded for business and innovation infrastructures. In any given those malays only care about their lust of their political might and keep branching their shyria laws even though to non-muslim. Even I went to an event, at the end of the event the malay moderator darefully told those european not to hire chinese in malaysia for their creative work *Fuck them if we chinese not paying their tax for their pharisees UMNO they all eating mud and dog's shit just as those third-3rd class countries still at war!* Blaze their fuckon corrupted UMNO politician can live in a million ringgit mansion?

Malays just a crooks descendants, they even using their political power to alter the history of *Hang tuah* Shame hang-tuah is actually a muslim chinese ( Stupid ancestor just to protect those crooks not to mentioned used by them ) Just because it is Hang-tuah are true the pioneered reached in this geographical map and they using Hang-tuah as their own malay ancestor then called themselves and malaysia as tanah melayu ( soil of malay ) FUCK them event reacted like the small japanese and had tried to wipe *Hang-tuah* history from their primary-secondary school history textbook! How fart are their retarded shit liar mind!

This is just completely useless for their whole of their existence malaysia shrinked to lack behind of modern development by 40years it is all cuz those malay lust for their political power you can take a good look of UMNO regime 24years+ in power to malaysia still deperately classified themselves as modern democratic nation that is a shame deed.

If you be a patriot of malaysia you are just being use by those UMNO crooks. No body will say you are a hero not even a credit of what you have done finally few decades later your spirit of devoted your blast of patriotism are just long gone for the future!

Dull shit Fuck Malay never let go of their mind to gripping their political power by means of fair and Justice cuz of their sake of vile, greed, self-centred, chronism monetary systems and worst those England monarchy are the one supporting them in doing this!

Did they really follow their quaran rules? Quran said one should not smoke otherwise there is punishment in hell. If you take a good look every malays smoke like a pig rarely a non-smoker.

Shit Crook leader mahathir disallowed us travel between Israel just because he wants to protect their chronies political power so we will never learn apart of true democracy shame England monarchy are those who even United nation head as united state are those WHO SUPPORTING THEM FOR THAT! How shit it is if you take a really great look of every corner of history for the last 40 – 800 years!

Finally, Shit those politics including US and england, UMNO u all hellbounded!

O yeah, Malaysia is retarded for business and innovation infrastructures. In any given those malays only care about their lust of their political might and keep branching their shyria laws even though to non-muslim. Even I went to an event, at the end of the event the malay moderator darefully told those european not to hire chinese in malaysia for their creative work *Fuck them if we chinese not paying their tax for their pharisees UMNO they all eating mud and dog's shit just as those third-3rd class countries still at war!* Blaze their fuckon corrupted UMNO politician can live in a million ringgit mansion?

Malays just a crooks descendants, they even using their political power to alter the history of *Hang tuah* Shame hang-tuah is actually a muslim chinese ( Stupid ancestor just to protect those crooks not to mentioned used by them ) Just because it is Hang-tuah are true the pioneered reached in this geographical map and they using Hang-tuah as their own malay ancestor then called themselves and malaysia as tanah melayu ( soil of malay ) FUCK them event reacted like the small japanese and had tried to wipe *Hang-tuah* history from their primary-secondary school history textbook! How fart are their retarded shit liar mind!

This is just completely useless for their whole of their existence malaysia shrinked to lack behind of modern development by 40years it is all cuz those malay lust for their political power you can take a good look of UMNO regime 24years+ in power to malaysia still deperately classified themselves as modern democratic nation that is a shame deed.

If you be a patriot of malaysia you are just being use by those UMNO crooks. No body will say you are a hero not even a credit of what you have done finally few decades later your spirit of devoted your blast of patriotism are just long gone for the future!

Dull shit Fuck Malay never let go of their mind to gripping their political power by means of fair and Justice cuz of their sake of vile, greed, self-centred, chronism monetary systems and worst those England monarchy are the one supporting them in doing this!

Did they really follow their quaran rules? Quran said one should not smoke otherwise there is punishment in hell. If you take a good look every malays smoke like a pig rarely a non-smoker.

Shit Crook leader mahathir disallowed us travel between Israel just because he wants to protect their chronies political power so we will never learn apart of true democracy shame England monarchy are those who even United nation head as united state are those WHO SUPPORTING THEM FOR THAT! How shit it is if you take a really great look of every corner of history for the last 40 – 800 years!

Finally, Shit those politics including US and england, UMNO u all hellbounded!

O yeah, Malaysia is retarded for business and innovation infrastructures. In any given those malays only care about their lust of their political might and keep branching their shyria laws even though to non-muslim. Even I went to an event, at the end of the event the malay moderator darefully told those european not to hire chinese in malaysia for their creative work *Fuck them if we chinese not paying their tax for their pharisees UMNO they all eating mud and dog's shit just as those third-3rd class countries still at war!* Blaze their fuckon corrupted UMNO politician can live in a million ringgit mansion?

Malays just a crooks descendants, they even using their political power to alter the history of *Hang tuah* Shame hang-tuah is actually a muslim chinese ( Stupid ancestor just to protect those crooks not to mentioned used by them ) Just because it is Hang-tuah are true the pioneered reached in this geographical map and they using Hang-tuah as their own malay ancestor then called themselves and malaysia as tanah melayu ( soil of malay ) FUCK them event reacted like the small japanese and had tried to wipe *Hang-tuah* history from their primary-secondary school history textbook! How fart are their retarded shit liar mind!

This is just completely useless for their whole of their existence malaysia shrinked to lack behind of modern development by 40years it is all cuz those malay lust for their political power you can take a good look of UMNO regime 24years+ in power to malaysia still deperately classified themselves as modern democratic nation that is a shame deed.

If you be a patriot of malaysia you are just being use by those UMNO crooks. No body will say you are a hero not even a credit of what you have done finally few decades later your spirit of devoted your blast of patriotism are just long gone for the future!

Dull shit Fuck Malay never let go of their mind to gripping their political power by means of fair and Justice cuz of their sake of vile, greed, self-centred, chronism monetary systems and worst those England monarchy are the one supporting them in doing this!

Did they really follow their quaran rules? Quran said one should not smoke otherwise there is punishment in hell. If you take a good look every malays smoke like a pig rarely a non-smoker.

Shit Crook leader mahathir disallowed us travel between Israel just because he wants to protect their chronies political power so we will never learn apart of true democracy shame England monarchy are those who even United nation head as united state are those WHO SUPPORTING THEM FOR THAT! How shit it is if you take a really great look of every corner of history for the last 40 – 800 years!

O yeah, Malaysia is retarded for business and innovation infrastructures. In any given those malays only care about their lust of their political might and keep branching their shyria laws even though to non-muslim. Even I went to an event, at the end of the event the malay moderator darefully told those european not to hire chinese in malaysia for their creative work *Fuck them if we chinese not paying their tax for their pharisees UMNO they all eating mud and dog's shit just as those third-3rd class countries still at war!* Blaze their fuckon corrupted UMNO politician can live in a million ringgit mansion?

Malays just a crooks descendants, they even using their political power to alter the history of *Hang tuah* Shame hang-tuah is actually a muslim chinese ( Stupid ancestor just to protect those crooks not to mentioned used by them ) Just because it is Hang-tuah are true the pioneered reached in this geographical map and they using Hang-tuah as their own malay ancestor then called themselves and malaysia as tanah melayu ( soil of malay ) FUCK them event reacted like the small japanese and had tried to wipe *Hang-tuah* history from their primary-secondary school history textbook! How fart are their retarded shit liar mind!

This is just completely useless for their whole of their existence malaysia shrinked to lack behind of modern development by 40years it is all cuz those malay lust for their political power you can take a good look of UMNO regime 24years+ in power to malaysia still deperately classified themselves as modern democratic nation that is a shame deed.

If you be a patriot of malaysia you are just being use by those UMNO crooks. No body will say you are a hero not even a credit of what you have done finally few decades later your spirit of devoted your blast of patriotism are just long gone for the future!

Dull shit Fuck Malay never let go of their mind to gripping their political power by means of fair and Justice cuz of their sake of vile, greed, self-centred, chronism monetary systems and worst those England monarchy are the one supporting them in doing this!

Did they really follow their quaran rules? Quran said one should not smoke otherwise there is punishment in hell. If you take a good look every malays smoke like a pig rarely a non-smoker.

Shit Crook leader mahathir disallowed us travel between Israel just because he wants to protect their chronies political power so we will never learn apart of true democracy shame England monarchy are those who even United nation head as united state are those WHO SUPPORTING THEM FOR THAT! How shit it is if you take a really great look of every corner of history for the last 40 – 800 years!

All those manipulative islamic malays know is hate for nonbelievers and spread their haughty hateful disease around the world which caused most nonislamic asians to be as selfish and behaved as badly as them. Their misplaced arrogance about their evil islam is also another horrible feature of their extreme filthy asian crude backwardness.

Another I hate about those twofaced asians(islamic or nonislamic)is they only "appear" or pretend to be "nice" to rich people or people who foolishly agree with them or meek people who dare not oppose them or people who they think they can corrupt with their filthy islamic culture. They are worst than black people.

malaysia is one of the worst asian country. They don't deserved all those superficial fake development due to their nasty shabby behaviour, their misrule and their misplaced arrogance over their backward race and their filthy culture.

Well,i had two of my worst trips to malaysia.I saw No Culture Over there,just humiliation.They aint respect no one.They are somehow good in Tech and i am sure that is because of Chinese.i cant figure out why they act like this.My cell was outta battery,i asked anyone all shops and markets around to let me use Electricity socket for just 5 min to charge my phone a little,but no one allowed me to do so. About Indians,most of them are crap,nasty and so and of course liars. Islamic country?!!!! hah i saw no religion, neither islam nor any other in malaysia.lots of trannies totally disgusting.anyway i am from Persia (Iran).no disrespect just saying these may be you change your culture for Gods sake.

well, i heard same things too,my friends told me it is kinda bad but aweful! stupid mind people plus machinery make the worst combination ever! this country is full of proud people that they dont know how to behave others and un polite people

Yes, I agree with you man. Thanks for this beautiful blog.. You know my cousin and his wife went to Malaysia a couple of years ago and based on their experienced, they noticed that Malaysians are uneducated, punk, Racist, idiots, ignorant and surrounded by monkeys and evils. They don't know how to deal with other people especially the foreigners.. He think that M'sia has its own world out of this planet. They feel bored in Malaysia. They don't enjoy their vication their. He compare his experience with Hong Kong and Thailand and he said these two countries are much better than Malaysia In Hong kong they enjoyed it particularly in thailand. They have a nice view and nice people in Thailand. I decided not to visit M'sia anymore bec. of their bad experience. I rather visit Indonesia, Thailand, Laos, Korea and the rest of Asian country even African/Latin American nations but not MALAYSIA. how sad M'sia, you must change your sttitude and your style bec. many foreigners are victimized by your poor behavior when they visit your country. Sorry peace! It's just my opinion. But I believe that M'sia can change that bad behavior.

Malaysia in other worlds MAGAYSIA!
The country of faggots a gay Asian country.They always claim that their are more richer than other Asian countries but yet they have bad attitude/behavior how sad… This time you are richer than some other nations in Asia but believe me 10 years from now MALAYSIA would be the poorest nation on planet, poorer than Zimbabwe. Almost everybody hates M'sia bad for you Monkeysians.

Thank god you were actually attacked by ungrateful Indonesians in Puduraya since you're White!

and don't simply put a statement on our racial issues. You don't even know our history. And also you listened to an old lady who don't appreciate her presence in this country. Good, we don't even need tourist like you in here. Don't come back.

sorry what happened to you at malaysia mate. sometimes malaysia is beautiful if u go to the rural area. city is not nice .u ahve to watch ur back 😉

i am a malaysian my self, and i am proud of it. no matter what you people say about it. its my homeland and were i am born.

for you non malaysian. you can't say malaysia is bad for few reason. i have to admit my people are lazy and they are con-artis. but try to look some other parts of malaysia yea they are bad but NOT the whole malaysia are bad. but generaly you can't blame malaysian people for not treated you well (that why tourism is created so they guide your through malaysia without u being a lost case, you need someone that are understands the place)

and about religion, we respect other religion and we expect others to do the same.

i don't blame you for letting your anger go. (i would do the same)

but Don't say BAD MALAYSIA.
i hope you understands.
-golok.

There is nothing to be proud about malaysia for there just too many horrible abusive malaysians(and that include horrible malaysian leaders) around that give malaysia such a bad image.
Malaysia like many other asian countries are bad and are really unpleasant to live in and need to improve their disgusting behaviour.
malaysia is still a very backward and inhumane country. and malaysia predominant asian islamic culture just stink with badness.

WLIL

dear Paul,

u do know how to differ between a malay and and indonesian right? if an australian mugged a tourist in new york, would we know that he's an australian? we would simply said, aiyyah, so bad experience with the americans!! Racist?! You are not?!

Sadly, what u observed and said about the Puduraya bus station is so true but thts not to say that we Malaysians r ok with it. We've been complaining and highlighting then problems for years and finally I think, the authorities are doing someting about it like moving it out of the city and hv s more systematic station. – Niki

As a malaysian i agree with you 100%. malaysia is a shithole for non-malays. malaysia is the one and only country that treats their non malay citizens as 3rd class "foreigners" although being born and bred and contributes to malaysia. many of my relatives and friends have emigrated. my family will be soon emigrating too. we are no longer needed here. discrimination is everywhere. i urge tourist especially non muslims to stay far away before you also become a victim here by the malays.

Fuck you white people. Our Allah sure will come to tear you into pieces. Long live Malay! Hidup Bumiputra!

Oh come on guys. Why are you so angry at the author? Have you ever encounter that sort of situation? NO. But he had. So it's not wrong for him to say that. You would say the same thing about other countries if you experienced such thing. You & I, Malaysian should take it as a standpoint to improve our country. or else we might take a million years to place our nation as a developed country.

About the bus system, WHAT?! do you think our bus system is the best in the world? Just admit it guys! What he said is probably true. And some of us are just too rude. Semua rakyat Msia bersopan santun, berbudi bahasa tu cuma ada dkt TV. There're a lot of rooms to improve.

And if someone say something about us, at least fight back with your brain. Kalo setakat ckp shit, go to hell tu bgs belajar byk2 perbanyakkan ilmu dulu. Dan kamu2 yg berkenaan, go learn english first. Takyah bising2 kalo english x btl. My english is not that good.

lastly, x pyh la gaduh Msia, Indo. Xphm la aku kamu ni. Alright. Peace. V.

Dear Paul, now we malaysians are proving to be better racist than you white! We're beating you at your own game!!! haha! owned!

malaysia is a divided country…accept that…its like the blue side and the crazy red side of merseyside!! EVERTON RULEZ!

malaysia is shit, was shit, n will always be shit. they come up with stuff like, oh, malaysia is a country where all races live in harmony and that makes them special? bullshit!!! plenty of other countries like the USA have been doing just that where, ppl live looking after themselves, n not trying to govern other ppls personal beliefs n way of life. n Malaysia claims being that? but they can't even fucking accept homosexuals, n jews, n atheists, and the list goes on n on. stop talking out of ur asses!!!! don't bother coming back with a emotionally fueled baseless patriotic salvo. talk if u can back it up with real facts

I am Malaysian. And despite what my fellow citizens have had to say(morons) I agree with you. My country used to be amazing. Now its just a hellhole with a lot of idiots in it

Well paul, I do agree with you in some aspects like the taxi problem. For me, when i grow up I would like to help my country by establishing a company with well mannered and knowledgeable drivers who are not biased in any way and also provide green cabs! Have to care for the environment too =) Good thing proton has come up with 2 green electric cars.
Another thing is the Pudu bus station, well it has recently been renovated and it looks pretty darn good now, but i'm really sure about the service though, I hope it does improve but all i know is that there are new CCTV's which help increase the safety of passengers alike. So i hope you would come back and as a malasian myself i am truly sorry for what has happened to you. I know how you feel because my friend too which is a foreigner was almost scammed but good thing he had a malaysian friend to help him, instead they refused the taxi.
Give us another few years, come back and see how it has improved.

Goodbye and have a nice day!

Very good article ,in my opinion those people are very sad in life and what reflect more is the womens you can talk at every shop counters of receiptions who always answer to you in a veeeeeerrryy angry way with no reason.

Better avoid this country,i will try indonesia as i am sure it can t be worse than this.

Womens reflects a country and in this case very unpolite.

Anonymous said…
hi, i've been in this "malaysia" for 8 years now. I wish i could have gone to some other place.

Haha loser…you lose 8 years of your life while Paul took 1 day.

Anonymous said…

i lived in malaysia for 9 years, and it is very hard to get used to that place, and the majority of the people there are so racist, they do know how to treat foreigners, they dont know how to behave, and wow read their comments,so pathetic

Some people are really into pain hahaha… 8 years and 9 years well Paul you are in good dumbos companies..hehe

I hate Malaysia.. but I lived there for 9 years because i can earn a living.

I hate malays but i lived in Malaysia because i have no where else to go.

I hate malays but i dont want to go back to China. My folks over there are communists.

I hope US or australia will take us chinkees..

I sure hate malaysia but i have nowhere else to go but China or India or Myanmar or Indon or Bangladesh or stupid Iran or ….or…

HAHAHA..I CAN`T BELIVE THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO REPORT THIS BLOG TO THE POLICE AFTER HEARING THE PLAIN TRUTH ABOUT THIS PLACE. HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY YOUR CORRUPT HASSLE POLICE FORCE TO INVESTIGATE THIS BLOG!!!! hhaaaahiiiiiiiii

I’m really sorry you did not have a good experience, mate.
Unfortunately every country has its flaws and its beautiful side too -believe me, I’m from Brazil. I grew up in Hong Kong and Macau and consider Asia “home”. I just been to Malaysia twice (Perhentians and Mabul) and both times it was amazing! I know that there are trips where everything goes wrong (Bali for me) and it really does ruin it – true. But we have to remember one thing: do not generalize it. Want to stop racism? Then stop talking about it – first step. And also there are only two type of people in this world: People who do good deeds and people who do bad. Their religion, their color, their ethnicity doesn’t matter. Yes, there are problems, but we can’t generalize a whole nation based on a trip that didn’t go right, cool? 😉

Internesting story with some good tips. Not sure if it is still up to date, as it’s now 4 years later.
I saw a reference to Vietnam, and can testify that as a white expat living here now for 2,5 years, that in Vietnam the Taxi problem has changed allot. The major caps (which consist of 50 to 70% of available caps) are all doing a good clean and non-cheating job. All caps are clearly numbered, prices indicated clearly and you can report a taxi through the main switchboard immediately if needed. In my now 2,5 years here, I had 3 attempts of taxi’s to cheat by not wanting to run the meter and quoting a bullshit price (2 times), and a rigged meter (once), with my other estimated 500-800 taxi rides being problem free.
I’m looking into Malaysia now, as I’ve got a job offer to go there. Thanks for the article, it gives another look at things. Small not for me though is that, I do see that American’s in general in Asia have more problems/conflict with locals then other westerners.

well said bro, well said. but dude, you havent seen the good side yet 🙂 and just for your info malay has suffered a lot back then and now we’re just taking back what we own. do some history research first before come into own conclusion. malay before faced lots of difficulties , they stay in the village side which is not too modern. malay education is low but the indian and chinese live in city and ‘kawasan ladang’ which give them more income than malay back then does. so today , the prime is giving back the right that should be given to the owner land back 🙂 also , about racist issue , it kinda makes me wonder for a while because the other day i saw a group of chinese malay indian walks together and laughing XD so about racist issue ? exist because they less communicate with each other. hm , for low education people maybe makes sense because these kind of malay dont know how to communicate with the chinese because of language problem. but malay with indian , i dont think there’s language problem encounter. and chinese also dont know how to speak in malay so when there are no communication happens , it hard to comprehend each other. but hold on , i dont know which part i’ve reached to XD haha . out of the topics. okay sorry you guys and im just too lazy to delete it all back X)

Malaysia is the most bad country with bad people I’ve ever see.
And Malaysia is rank 1 for the Most Racism Country in the world.

Malaysia itu tukang fitnah. Blog seperti ini bukan orang Indonesia yang bikin. Dan lagi, soal Pesawat Malaysia Airlines MH370, Indonesia rela membantu mencari kok malah difitnah bersekongkol dengan Amerika Serikat oleh Media Malaysia? Orang muslim kok tukang fitnah? Akibatnya, makan aja tuh cemoohan dan hinaan warga Tiongkok yang dapet informasi gak jelas soal keluarganya yang ikut penerbangan MH370. Jadi yang memusuhi orang Malaysia gak cuma orang Indonesia aja, orang Tiongkok juga nih.

It’s simply true. Malaysia’s culture has been consumed by religion and corruption. Chinese and Indians are treated like shit, there will never be a day where you will be recognised as a Malaysian without being titled Malaysian Chinese or Malaysian Indian.
It’s pathetic. Coming from Australia, I have to think twice about visiting some of my relatives for Chinese New Year because of how much I dislike the corruption and restrictions on celebrating such an event like Chinese New Year.
My advice for anyone reading this, is to just visit Penang 🙂

Another retarded thing about Malaysia is the language they use. 70% of the vocabulary is from English and they spell it ‘phonetically’. Mail becomes Mel, Prestige becomes Prestij, bus becomes bas. Why not just use the original spelling in english and pronounce it how you want!

I fully agree with Paul.
Malaysia is full of xenophobes and crooks. Sadly, I got threatened in to giving a taxi driver my money,just for sitting in his taxi for a minute. This was when I was still a teenager.
It is also extremely phobic of any expression of individuality. Being different in any way is either highly laughable or downright dangerous.
In another incident where I was shopping in KL with two American girls, we were harassed by a shop owner with all the English filth he knew. This is merely because my two friends looked at a handbag for sale, tried to bargain and decided not to buy it in the end. It was really scary as he even followed us screaming filth and threatened to f*** them. This would be unheard of in nearby Bangkok where people are gentle and loves people of other nations.
I also sense a sexual frustration in the very underhand and guilt ridden way they approach it. I guess its an indication of the twisting grip the Sharia law has on its victims.
What a sad nation….

Sorry to hear your dreadful experiences in Malaysia. Although there are truth in your claims of the mess in Puduraya bus station, our far from perfect taxi service and subsisted racial tensions in Malaysia, I have to say that you have unfortunately went to the wrong part of the town to see what the true Kuala Lumpur is to so quickly brand Malaysia bad. Did you not go to any pleasant places in KL besides the shoddy Puduraya and meet the many normal, friendly and non-racist civilised Malaysians?
Being a Malaysian Chinese myself, I have and am still living pleasurably and peacefully among my multiracial friends and neighbors, who feel the same as I do. We will find the occasional rotten apple everywhere in the world. It’s really not that bad from where I am standing now, really.. ☺

Malaysia– A pathetic shit-hole of lazy, selfish morons. I lived there for many years, and happily left after I made my money.
Stupidest and unhappiest people I’ve ever met anywhere in the world. And it’s true that most countries in Asia hate Malaysians, because of their awful people skills and the annoying, uneducated way they talk.
The country looks nice, but the people are the main reason to stay away– not just the brain-dead malays, but also ALL of the ethnicities there. Go to Singapore– it’s more advanced there, and the people are friendly.

Malaysia without Chinese, they will become like 4th world country like Africa. Although i am Malay but i love Chinese of hardworking, good brain and very symstermatic (Y)

I have migrated to Australia now due to BAD politics in Malaysia, high criminal and not very safe country to live with. Become worse and worse !!! Very disappointed

Malaysia is really a bad country.
Racist , everything is all malay malay and malay.and najib razak prime minister of malaysia suck our money 2.6 billion.

Just wanting to correct you on a distorted fact that seems to have been spread among Malaysians.
Malay isn’t the indigenous people of Malaysia but orang asli is. Malays may have arrived at the land before the other ethnics group but they are not the natives. There are merely 0.6% of indigenous people in Malaysia right now according to the IWGIA. http://www.iwgia.org/regions/asia/malaysia
Another reference: http://minorityrights.org/minorities/orang-asli/

You’re judging based on stereotypes. I’ve lived in Malaysia about 3 years. my hometown is London. maybe you met wrong people there. You don’t really “fit in” much. Some people are very racist & that is happening everywhere especially in America and Europe countries, Chinese is super racist and hating others especially Malay and Indian. They think they are superior than any poor race there. If you were smart, you won’t judging easily and take more time to observed. Too bad some people are just narrow minded & cynical. Just saying. As a traveler myself, there are certain beauties about cultures and laws of countries. All we gotta do is understand they way they think and we will find why this & that happened without blaming anyone. the world is big brother, There is so much more out there if you’re stop being judgemental ass. I made many local friends in Malaysia and I can say it’s one of the best countries to live in.

The majority of Malay are extremist. You want to find a terrorist you will probably find him there. The environment fit their uncultivated way of thinking.

well, i do stay for over one year now at malaysia – penang, because my wife is malaysian. at first i been very positiv about this country, but now i decided to go back to my home country. malaysia is a country without any hope. the article been posted at 2008, now its 2016. nothing had change.
the government seems to not think one minute about what they are doing. the most people have no clue about what they have to do at work and never take their work serious at all, (hello, bus and taxi problem from above). specialized if you need go to a official building of the state/government etc. – like curt or what ever. mostly lazy and no idea of whats going on. sometimes i been about to ask does it been possible to let me use the office, so i can do all by myself.
malaysians like to complain about their own country, but they are not willing to change something. so far i made good experience with only some less local people.
till i move back, it may take one year more time, so im willing to give it still a chance. malaysia had teach me one thing, to never complain again about what happen at my own country or in general at europe.
actually, malaysia have only one thing to do, to get serious. to face the problems and solve them, thats all. then it would be a great country.

Its the end of 2016, 8 years from when Paul wrote this blog post and I am very sad to say his account is entirely spot on and nothing has changed. Having returned from a few days in Penang (supposedly the better run part of Malaysia), I have come to conclude Malaysia is the worst, most charmless, place I have ever visited. That’s quite something as I have travelled and fallen in love with many countries with far more challenging poverty and development issues, like the Philippines and India, and other Muslim nations including Morocco and Tunisia.
Penang was actually my second Malaysian trip as I visited Borneo around the same time as Paul back in 2008. Then, I was as confused because whilst the CNN adverts in my hotel-room TV were marketing the ‘Truly Asia’ National Parks and adventure sports, we found it impossible to arrange diving (the reason for visiting) because operators didn’t turn up or were trying to charge double the price advertised (comparably expensive to other parts of Asia). Trying to go anywhere, the tourist office was useless and most things were shut. At the time, I put this down to perhaps buying the wrong travel book incomplete with information.
But roll on to 2016, 8 years after George Town, Penang was awarded UNESCO World Heritage site and what are the signs of ‘Truly Asia’ when most of the buildings are dilapidated and falling down and the place is a slum with most (bar a handful of Chinese-run eateries) shops shut looking like the occupiers left decades ago. Don’t be fooled by the ‘Penang Street Art’ (the big thing from 2012), its a few faded paintings on scrawny buildings. Not that you will find many of them because the smiling but dim Malay women at the tourist office hands out leaflets on crap gimmicky ‘upside down’ museums rather than any heritage or art trails.
The saddest thing about Penang is that it actually has an array of colonial architecture and heritage that other places would vie for. Though they are left to rot and Malaysia’s now notorious corruption is ever evident when you see the state of Suffolk House (the island’s only Georgian mansion), given its refurb was supposed to have been corporately funded by HSBC. As for Penang Hill, how to make a complete mess out of somewhere beautiful. The locals, notably the Malays, like to treat it like their own backyard….fill it with rubbish like a landtip.
The saving grace were actually the taxis, there was only one lame attempt at ripping off, the rest were very nice Chinese and Indians. The tourist offices’ tour guide was gave and excellent and entertaining tour of George Town (which saved the experience) though it felt sad to meet people like him and a gallery owner who are clearly angry and frustrated about how the people and government treat their own environment. The Botanic Gardens and Tropical Spice Garden were very pleasant and unsurprisingly the well-run restaurant there are run by Thais.
That’s the thing, Malaysia is supposed to advanced to mid-developed. The reality is that it is a developing country and the people behave with a backward mentality. Eg. Additional fees on top of a foreigners fee for the fast tram, fees for queue jumping, with people just pushing through at Penang Hill. Yes, we got ripped of by a supposedly reputable tour promoter, sending us to a dirty shack in Penang Hill described as 4* hotel dinner. Not only does greed and corruption pervade into everyday life, Malaysians must be the laziest bunch of people I have ever come across. The comments above describe the defensive Malaysian mentality perfectly. Nothing quite works or is possible. Even in a generally good 4* hotel, by 5 o’clock the cleaners still hadn’t cleaned the room (it took two visits to concierge) and when they did, no towels were left. At the 5* Eastern & Oriental, both times the waiter forgot the ice water requested, no one bothered to clear the messy dining tables after a large group had left, paint was peeling off the scruffy walls.
As for the food, yes it was good. Though nowhere else have I ever been served chicken that is openly bleeding with a smile (yes that was a Malay eatery rather than Chinese or Indian). Needless to say, I have had food poisoning on my return and we were just so fed up and wanted to get out of the place and to the airport, that we didn’t bother to complain. Anyhow, Singapore offers the same cuisine including Nyonya but without the health hazards. It’s not like you can’t experience hawker markets or street food anywhere else in SE Asia.
It is these rather minor issues that culminate and combined with visible ineptitude, laziness and travel boredom (because there isn’t much to do and organising it turns into a hassle) that makes Malaysia a dreadful place to visit. Put aside Singapore (Malaysians get chippy about), but in comparison to Thailand or Indonesia, particularly Bali (yes even Indonesia which Malaysians think they are so much better than), Malaysia is truly incredible basket case. Don’t be fooled by the ‘Truly Asia’ marketing or the Lonely Planet write-ups (can only assume bribes feature somewhere), the reality is not even ‘poor but happy rustic Asia’ the place feels miserable. As someone who originates from a multicultural developing country which knows how to welcome visitors, Malaysia is nothing but a bitter disappointment.

death to all pauls
at least we don’t need no wall
and we don’t have brexit
unlike u white ppl
waste of space on this planet
contact nasa if u are not happy with planet earth. they’ve found several new planets for u to move to. pls consider sir. will do a lot of good to not malaysia but to the world u cunt.
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Mostly violence are from foreigners. Because you are not from here which is not a Malaysians, you can’t differentiate which is Malaysian or foreigners. My friend almost got raped and violence in Sabah but she was lucky because she can protect herself with self defence. We need all these foreigners to work and help with build work field but the most problems is always with illegal foreigners who came here and made those chaos that can give bad impact to Malaysia. This is so bad and I’m sorry for your bitter experience in here. Btw, don’t lose your interest in travel and be a tourist in anywhere country without get effected with rumours around in social media etc. Go for travel and look for a new world. Live is short and live with full of happiness. Stop complaining and enjoy your life. Have a nice day.

The Chinese are filthy yellow pigs. Cina babi’s make the country awful. No wonder they look & smell fugly.

Compare to thailand who banned the chinese newspapers and chinese school and indonesia killing massive amount of chinese around 1998, malaysia is very friendly with the chinese. Its just the malays are one of the austronesians,yes malays are one of the original tribes of these lands, we are afraid that other people stealing our jobs just like americans now. N our taxis are not that bad,only a few,and who the heck use taxi nowadays,just use uber or grab. We never claim we are ia develop nation, we are still developing, so you just need to wait until we fight the corruption of our country.

Malaysia is better place than any rest of the world I would say..I love Malaysia..We have everything but humans attitude problem is main cause everything is ruining.
But not only in Malaysia but in every world there is some need to change..human forget to respect each other..First learn to respect others..Learn to respect every races ..Judge ones from their character not by race,throw the bad character that residing every of us..learn to help each other..Stop discrimination, .For Malaysians don forget the history of how our Malaysia came first?? The Story which start in our history book with Parameswara of Melaka..How many knows Parameswara name means Indian God name (Lord Shiva), but story went that he convert to Islam, but he did it sincerely and he did’n see any wrong about it…
Don’t forget first of all that we all step out from our mother womb. before you even don’t know who the hell are you, but our parents the one show us the world.. Every ones blood is same except aliens are green..( But even aliens don’t bother) but why humans??Don judge people by their color but judge by their attitude.To honest say about religion..Did anyone know why religion is made??to make people having good thought and behavior. ..None religion thought us different..Please don judge Malay, chinese and Indian or any races based from religion and color difference ….Before religion came ,human formed first..religion made by human to teach being a good generations, to construct a good humanity as a chain.. ..Everyone prays in different way and different God names,but all in one purpose to live humanity..
(So you typical tiny humans attitude that has 6 brains which he made this beautiful planet to live in for you all , but as a price you all have forgot it ,over reacting with such stupid hyper over attitude , where will know one day that we might have no time to regret that time popped in your mind,>>what is life and how good I had chance to live it but I destroyed it<<< ,that time we all will start to think,put it in our stubborn head when such nature disaster as tsunami ,volcano,earth quake ,tornedo etc, will teach us such lesson to those low thinking humans out there full with bad attitude such revenge, hypocrite, ego ,cruelty, etc, to think twice in their head ( I did'n live my life proper when i had the chance)..and next the world ends..Now you all are an egg toast in God hand..So as long you live just shut off the mouth and learn to live harmony..Change the attitude means not for style but it still remains to Goodness.
Don't forget human are once apes that don't even had chance to live in a what you all call today house in every way..

I hate bludy chinese in malaysia!. They think they are very smart they would tell by themself like no shame.This rascals are racist bastards and bludy heartless.They cant afford to see if other racist clever than them.The main reason malay and indians never get job in malaysia is because of this fuckers dirty game.They only take for job and give high pay to their racist people.But in reality they create story revert to graduates that never get job because of their attitude or problem in resume and etc.Even malaysian government not aware of this I dono but they seem not care it just happens all time.Goverment should take action that all racist should get job at equal if not all chinese companies should be fired off!! If they found an Indian or malay come for an interview they will play smart game at begin. This chinese smiling is the poison of all. At back they will reject the application with no answer.Now they are very advantage ready by using resume .They can easily reject candidates using the method of sending resume by mail than walk in interview.If incase they take other race for the job than that should be a hide and seek reason for it so that they use him / her for temporary.Other employee that has high or minor average education also they straight away give them lower class job such as operator .If there is no operators of other racist this bastard not even can run a company.They treat them like slave with low pay.If come to raise salary they wont hestitate to do something to push the operator in maximum way so the operator himself will quit.This are this fools attitude.They only target to give high pay to their racist even if they are not educated .I have seen so many job posts as this asking for chinese workers only with high pay.How come this all no one aware of??.This chinese imagine that they are the only one should stay in this planet like high class like shit.They see other race like they are cross over to their achievement..Like ass!. This chineses looks like fucking pig face with only white color face but attitude expresion like they are Americans life style.English people are very mannered people and they knew how to talk and respect others.Only chinese bastards are rude and not mannered people in the world!! They will do anything for money even never let of other races to do a business.Sure they come and sabotaj at there.Bludy fools like this are in one day will sure be drag to hell by god. I don get it why malaysian give it too much places to this fools in malaysia.Every race should get equal rights.Everywhere I go in malaysia I see they create like it been made just for chinese fuckers!.I am talking this because I know well about this peoples attitude very well how they play game in others workers life .They will ruin and try to destroy the future of other racist by at last they have nothing to work in their later life.They will totally crush the employers life.I want Malaysian government to take action about this.We have rights to ask because we are Malaysian.

I stayed in Malaysia for 3 months, in Penang, from August to November. The chinese people are everywhere, and they seem to be very distrustful of others. Paranoid. The muslims and the Indians seem to be much more confident in their behavior.
It’s interesting how the chinese in Malaysia want everyone to know that they are not like the mainlander Chinese, although honestly, I see a very small difrerence there. Rude people.

melayu kimak. bubarkan jela negara malaysia ni woi. bagi sabah sarawak kat bwh kalimantan. biar ada persekutuan tanah melayu je kalau ko nk melalak siang malam pasal ketuanan melayu anjing tu. atleast sabah sarawak xyh dengar korang memekak cm cb.. malu sia jd org melayu cmni. siang malam takut dgn bayang2 sendiri. sukimak.

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